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Waynemel
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Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I recently aquired a very nice Vito B with the 50mm f2.8 Color-Skopar lens. My question is: Is this the exact same lens as on my Bessamatic that has a "Color-Skopar X" or is it just a case of changed nomenclature?
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Adrian
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Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 06:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You got me curious as I have a Vito II and a Vito C with the Color-Skopar lens. Do you think the X might just denote that it's the interchangable version?

Adrian
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Waynemel
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Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 07:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That's a good point.
I thought it might denote a later version of the lens, perhaps with different coatings.
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Tom_cheshire
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Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I believe the X refers to it being for a Reflex.

Other manufacturers labeled their SLR lens similarly like the first Canon SLR (Canonflex) used the R designation to indicate Reflex.

I don't believe they are the same exact design but can't say with certainty.
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David_nebenzahl
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Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dunno where you get "X" standing for reflex; the B is just a simple viewfinder camera, just like the II, even though the II is a folder and the B is not. (I have a Vito II; it was my only camera for a long time, and the Color Skopar is a truly fine lens.)

Also don't know what this business of "different coatings" is. People seem to have a lot of misconceptions about the function of lens coatings, and the different qualities thereof. One myth is that better coatings = better pictures. It's true that coatings have improved over time, and that modern coatings (including multi-coatings) are probably superior to earlier ones. But keep in mind that all coating really does is to reduce reflections from glass surfaces, therefore potentially improving contrast. They really have nothing at all to do with color rendition or image sharpness, contrary to popular belief.
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Tom_cheshire
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Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The reflex the poster is referring to is the Bessamatic which was a single lens reflex having the Skopar X lens.
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David_nebenzahl
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Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ah, so. My bad for not reading carefully.
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Estudleon
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Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2010 - 07:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There are two version of Skopar lenses for SRL. One (the oldest) focus from 1 m and the second version focus from 60 cm.

I think that the "X" lens (I had both) is the last version.

Not multicoated. The same coating for both. Not flash version.

Rino.
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Jecicapapa
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Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

One myth is that better coatings = better pictures. It's true that coatings have improved over time, and that modern coatings (including multi-coatings) are probably superior to earlier ones.plesae see this site:http://www.acetechsz.com/
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David_nebenzahl
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Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What is that, spam? Pretty stupid response in any case ...
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Estudleon
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Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 06:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

None of the RF skopar are the same than the SRL ones. Why? The RF is the skopar in the original schame, the SRL one had to be designed to longer register to be in focus in long distance to the film 'cos the mirror (that isn't in the RF cams). And if you look for the best skopar 50 mm, take the F/3,5 version.

Rino.

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