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Fallisphoto
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Username: Fallisphoto
Post Number: 336
Registered: 09-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 05:04 pm: | 
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Recently, I bought a Kodak Autographic 2A and an Ansco Buster Brown 2A box camera. Looking them up online, everyone seems to believe they took 116 film. However, mine each had perfectly fitting 118 film spools in them. I'd like to make adapters for 120 film, but I can't find another vintage pair of 118 film spools (I've worked out how to make a really good set of adapters using the ends of two 118 film spools). Does anyone know if the ends of 116 film spools are the same size? |
Mr_flibble
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Username: Mr_flibble
Post Number: 115
Registered: 10-2011
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2013 - 03:41 pm: |
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Might not be the answer you were looking for but here's a guy who used some plastic drinking straw pieces to make the spacers to fit a regular 120 roll in a 118 camera. He did use the 118 spool on the take-up side.
http://coolframe.wordpress.com/2011/08/21/kodak-autographic-nr-3-model-h/ |
Fallisphoto
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Username: Fallisphoto
Post Number: 337
Registered: 09-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 09:43 am: |
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What I do is to use two 1/16 inch thick washers, one with a 1/8 inch hole and one with a 3/8 inch hole, a common nail, a small piece of steel shim and the end of a 118 film spool. You cut off most of the shaft of the nail, leaving about 3/8 of an inch. Of that 3/8 of an inch, you use a rotary tool and a cut-off wheel to split the end of the shaft for 1/8 inch. you cut a groove across the head of the nail that is about 1/16 inch wide, like the slot in the head of a screw. The head of the nail goes into the washer with the 3/8 inch hole. The shaft goes through the 1/8 inch hole. Epoxy everything together. and make sure the head of the nail is flush with the washer. Cut a piece of steel shim that will fit into the split end of the nail and engage the end of the 120 film spool. Epoxy that into place and, finally, epoxy the end of a 118 film spool over the washer and end of the nail with the grooved head, so the lug hole in the film spool lines up with the slot in the end of the nail. That gives you an extremely solid and durable adapter that is very nearly all steel and that works very well. |
Fallisphoto
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Username: Fallisphoto
Post Number: 338
Registered: 09-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 10:10 am: |
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Like this: http://tinyurl.com/mlewwye |
Fallisphoto
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Username: Fallisphoto
Post Number: 339
Registered: 09-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 10:13 am: |
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My question remains: are the ends of 116 film spools the same size as the ends of 118 spools? |
Br1078lum
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Username: Br1078lum
Post Number: 626
Registered: 11-2010
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 06:59 pm: |
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The end of the 116 spool is 1.24in, or 31.6mm. The spool diameter is 0.45in, or 11.5mm. Length of the spool is 2.85in, or 72.5mm. I don't have a 118 spool to compare it with.
PF |
Hanskerensky
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Username: Hanskerensky
Post Number: 265
Registered: 05-2009
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 11:54 pm: |
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A comparison with these images should give you a good clue :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/heritagefutures/4941553938/
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/37685676@N00/6078290427/ |
Fallisphoto
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Username: Fallisphoto
Post Number: 340
Registered: 09-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 08, 2013 - 06:44 pm: |
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Hanskerensky, that's as close as makes no difference. I've gone ahead and bought three rolls of expired 116. I'll be using the ends of the spools to make adapters. |
