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Hank
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Username: Hank
Post Number: 25
Registered: 07-2011
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2012 - 05:13 pm: | 
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Hello Friends. Im going to strip the chrome off my M3 & repaint it black. I want to use my Iwata airbrush. I was curious if any of you have suggestions for a good Gloss Black airbrush paint and a primer as well. |
Paul_ron
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Username: Paul_ron
Post Number: 273
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2012 - 07:22 pm: |
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If you are removing the chrome parts, consider powder painting it. |
Hank
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Username: Hank
Post Number: 26
Registered: 07-2011
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2012 - 08:10 pm: |
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Yeah .... I never really heard of it. I need the paint to be very tough and as chip resistant as I can make it. Most ive heard is to use an enamel .... then bake it. But no where do I see any suggestions as to what brand enamel to use. |
Paul_ron
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Username: Paul_ron
Post Number: 274
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 30, 2012 - 07:54 pm: |
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Powder paint is avaialable from Cabellas since it used on fishing lures of all things.
http://www.cabelas.com/paints-prism-tape-pro-tec-powder-paint-2.shtml
You heat the part, the put the powder paint on the surface or dip it, reheat as it self levels to a beautiful finish. |
Glenn
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Username: Glenn
Post Number: 971
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 08:18 am: |
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Do not Pro-Tec or any other so called diy 'powder' coatings on the 'sheet metal' work of cameras. These coatings require the item to be pre heated, so that when the hot item is dipped into the powder a thin coat adheres to the surface. Because the sheet metal components do not retain the heat evenly, one gets an uneven coating that often leads to runs in the final stoving process. Unfortunately because of the risk of edge build up, all internal areas of the covers that contact the body frame will have to be masked off - these coatings are difficult to remove once they are cured.
For proper application of 'Fine' coatings the electrostatic process is the only method to use - ie use a professional applicator, an M3 ain't no bloody fish hook!
From experience you should note that even fine/thin coatings of this type can obscure fine engraving.
If you want to find a suitable stoving enamel, do a Google search and contact a suitable manufacturer direct - note not their agents. Doing this in the UK has provided me with small test samples (1/2 pints!) of products that have proved to stove in the domestic oven. I offered to pay but all was gratis and much advice also offered. |
Hank
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Username: Hank
Post Number: 27
Registered: 07-2011
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 09:13 pm: |
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Good advise Glenn. Thank you so much. How long did you bake your enamel and at what temperature? |
Paul_ron
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Username: Paul_ron
Post Number: 277
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 05:49 am: |
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Glen, Since the camera he is stripping is an M3, you've already turned it into a fish hook piece of crap by taking the original plating n paint off.
Yes the eletrostatic application n bake is the best method, places that do motorcycles will do it for you at a very minimal charge.
If you ever want to keep the value of a collector camera, you leave it as is, not strip n paint with Testors model paint or patio Rustolium.
Saying that, any paint you use will have an uneven build and will not be as good as the origianl thereby destroying any value it may have had.
As a repairmen I've seen too many DIY jobs come into my shop,painted and toutched up cameras are always the sore thumbs. I'd rather see brassing than an amatuer toutch up job.
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Glenn
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Username: Glenn
Post Number: 973
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 06:59 am: |
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In complete agreement Paul. I had three M Series refinished in black by Leitz - cost a fortune but really worth the expense and wait. |
Paul_ron
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Username: Paul_ron
Post Number: 278
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 02:28 pm: |
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Glen, How much did Leitz charge for the job? Maybe a recomendation to send it into them might be better advice for Hank along with the conact info.
At least his M3 will be worth someting in the end. I'll bet those cameras look cherry too.. any pics? |
Old_school
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Username: Old_school
Post Number: 149
Registered: 04-2011
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 05:47 pm: |
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H: Check out this site: CS Coatings:
http://csipaint.com/products/production-tools/powder-spray-gun.asp
I think it is a hoot, you should be able to paint that old camera up in any flavor you like. As far as Paul's comment, it is your camera to do what you wish. On the products page is a clear coat Epoxy too. I have An M6 LHSA that I am using as I like collector smectors use it....
Always the best! Mike |
Mars
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Username: Mars
Post Number: 6
Registered: 09-2012
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 07:58 am: |
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I have followed the debate, very intersing. I would like to paint an old anodyzed silver ricoh 35 S. Hank did you paint your leica? Is possible to see any pics of your job. I have some questions to do you.
thanks
p.s. sorry for my english i'm italian |
Overexposed
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Username: Overexposed
Post Number: 5
Registered: 05-2013
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2013 - 08:27 am: |
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>eletrostatic application n bake is the best method,
In terms of quality and scratchproofness it is certainly the very best. But the electrostatic method has for this application the disadvantage that quite a lot of powder coat will go around and settle also on the inside.Maybe you need to stuff the inside.
The fine lettering is certainly an issue too. Probably an even bigger issue.
(I did use powder coat on some products in a China factory) |
Overexposed
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Username: Overexposed
Post Number: 6
Registered: 05-2013
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 - 07:29 pm: |
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CSI link is now: http://csipaint.com/products/production-tools/powder-spray-gun.php
However, that nice little air brush gun has no electrostatic function. With electrostatic you will be able to make a much more even powder coat.
I have read that Leica/Leitz uses a type called "SENOCRYL". Powder coats come in many colors and surfaces incl. hammer effect etc.
Letters can be done with the white stick: http://www.micro-tools.com/store/item_detail.aspx?ItemCode=L51120
Would really love to get an old camera and try it. Not a Leica at first though. |
