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Anirban
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Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 01:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Everyone!

Does the shutter speed tester described by Rick Oleson here

http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-135.html

work for a speed of 1/2000s? My recently acquired Fujica ST-801 seems to show almost the same TV screen area at speeds of 1/1000s and 1/2000s.

Thanks,
Anirban
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Rick_oleson
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Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 05:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes, it does; however, the difference may be hard to see for two reasons: first, the difference in band width between 1/1000 and 1/2000 second is very small, and second, there is a small dwell time in the phosphors in the CRT display which adds to the width of the band at any speed. This is a negligible amount at the slower speeds, but as you get beyond 1/1000 the difference may begin to become measurable. The effect of this would be that, although the band at 1/2000 is narrower than that at 1/1000, it may be a bit more than half as wide.

I will try checking this with a digital camera and post the results up to 1/4000 second.
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Anirban
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Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks Rick, for the information.

If I understand it correctly, at any given point of time, some phosphors will be in a transition process of being "switched" on (because of scanning) , and some being switched off, resulting in a wider band, with the edges not bright enough. So, the sensitivity of the eye and the phosphor characteristics also come into play.

Please keep us posted with your results.

Anirban
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Rick_oleson
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Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Okay, I ran through the test with my Canon XTi (400D) at speeds from 1/60 through 1/4000 second. With my monitor, the test clearly shows the difference at each speed, the phosphor dwell is insignificant. Other CRTs may be different; it is just as likely, though, that the 1/2000 second speed in your Fujica is slow. Tolerances generally permit more error in the slow direction at the top end of the speed range, and a camera that old at 1/2000 may well have been less accurate than a modern one.

Here are the results that I got with my Canon:

http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-208.html
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Anirban
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Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 06:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Great information, Rick. Thanks a lot.
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Charlie
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Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 07:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Should a horizontally traveling shutter camera be held vertically?
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Anirban
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Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No, cameras with horizontal travelling shutters should be held horizontally (shutter slit travels laterally seen from the opened back for speeds more than the fastest flash sync speed).

Vertically travelling shutters like the ones in most modern film cameras, should be held vertically, so that the slit travels laterally.
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Rick_oleson
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Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That's correct: to make the photos in the above illustration, I had to hold the Canon vertically because it has a vertical-running shutter.

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