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Hikaristarshine
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Username: Hikaristarshine
Post Number: 1
Registered: 12-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 11:49 pm: | 
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I'm trying to restore an old Kodak box camera (a Brownie Hawkeye... yes, I know, not exactly spectacular, but it was my grandfather's), and have run into a slight snag. Two of the screws on the metal plate holding the lenses onto the front half of the camera are totally stuck, to the point that when trying to remove them, I'm afraid to put any more torque on for risk of damaging my screwdriver.
So, the question. I'd prefer not to damage anything on the camera if I can help it, whether that's the bakelite, the lenses, etc... so what kind of lubricant can I use to try and loosen these screws? Is something like WD-40 a good idea, or am I going to be better-served with something else? |
Dgillette4
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Username: Dgillette4
Post Number: 135
Registered: 04-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 08:23 am: |
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The four phillips screws should move with a small bit of penetrating oil. Make sure you have a top grade screwdriver, If not you may mess up the slots and most of the softer metal drivers that you find in stores. You can find these better ones on web sites like this one or Romneys', they cost a bit more but I tried some in those plastic $4 buck racks , forget them. Don |
Hikaristarshine
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Username: Hikaristarshine
Post Number: 2
Registered: 12-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 12:25 pm: |
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'penetrating oil'... is that the same extra-thin watch oil that I'm supposed to use to lubricate the shutter and such? |
Dgillette4
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Username: Dgillette4
Post Number: 136
Registered: 04-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 02:03 pm: |
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No, the shutter should be dry and clean , you might use a small pinpoint of fine watch oil or some times on the simpler shutters teflon triflo. On the pivots. don |
Rick_oleson
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Username: Rick_oleson
Post Number: 464
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 04:53 pm: |
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Back to your question though: I think penetrating oil is more specialized for seeping into tight spaces to loosen screws etc. One to look for is Liquid Wrench, although technically I don't think that is an oil. |
Hikaristarshine
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Username: Hikaristarshine
Post Number: 3
Registered: 12-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 06:25 pm: |
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Hmm... Where would I be most likely to find Liquid Wrench? Is that the sort of thing that I'd find at an auto supply store, or a gun store, or...?
*really really wants to get this camera opened to clean it up and all... shutter actually works fine, but the whole thing needs a good cleaning, especially the lenses* |
Rick_oleson
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Username: Rick_oleson
Post Number: 465
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 07:58 pm: |
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You might also refer to the other post on the same subject. It may well be impossible for a liquid penetrant to reach the threads, or the screws may be secured with LocTite or a similar thread locker.
Particularly in the latter case, heat applied to the screw head with a soldering iron tip will soften the thread locker so that you can (while it's still hot) break the screw free.
Liquid Wrench should be available at a hardware or auto parts store. |
Hikaristarshine
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Username: Hikaristarshine
Post Number: 4
Registered: 12-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 11:49 pm: |
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OK... so it looks like I need to use some heat on one of them. I got one of the two offending screws off, but the other is being quite ornery, and the Liquid Wrench isn't working the way it did on the other. After having gotten the other screw *out*, it appears that the difficulty is that there's about an inch of screw before the threads even show up. Just a plain soldering iron should do the trick, you say? |
Lgdavis
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Username: Lgdavis
Post Number: 2
Registered: 08-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 21, 2008 - 05:40 pm: |
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I would like to try some flash shots with a Bolsey B2. The B2 had a dedicated bulb flash attachment that mounted to the camera and made the electrical connection. I want to use an electronic flash. Reportedly there was a Bolsey flash adapter that screwed into the shutter, allowing the use of other flash units. Anyone know how that worked, as those adapters are probably pretty hard to find.? Thanks,
Larry |
Lgdavis
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Username: Lgdavis
Post Number: 4
Registered: 08-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 21, 2008 - 10:43 pm: |
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Sorry. I as trying to start a new discussion and put my question here by mistake. |
Lgdavis
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Username: Lgdavis
Post Number: 5
Registered: 08-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 21, 2008 - 10:47 pm: |
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I will post a message here to the stuck screew question. I have had better luck with a very stuck cross-point or phillips screw by using a flat screwdriver that fits down into the phillips/cross-point recess. You may have to get a new screw, but this has worked for me on several occassions. |
