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Ivoid
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Username: Ivoid
Post Number: 1
Registered: 12-2012
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2012 - 08:25 pm: | 
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This is an old camera my grandfather gave me. I know absolutely nothing about it and he really doesn't know much about it either. Here are some terrible cell phone pictures:
http://i.imgur.com/aKodz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7LCSP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ic1w0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QVVkz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/H4KAs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TqTzW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fJgqC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fqBPJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qKpyl.jpg
Is it a 127 film camera? Wikipedia says it made a comeback in the 50's as being inexpensive. My grandfather came to the US in the early 60's, so maybe that makes sense?
The only markings on it that i can find are the ones on the front which seem to say "Pilmir Camera" or "Filmir Camera" maybe, and under that it says "Made in Italy"
The Entire thing has a black wrinkle type finish.
Anybody have any idea what it is? I couldn't find anything so far.
Any help is appreciated! |
M_currie
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Username: M_currie
Post Number: 293
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2012 - 09:30 pm: |
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The easiest thing might be to measure what size spools would fit into it. It would have been much easier if you had the take-up spool. If you do find film and try to use it, you'll have to get another spool.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_format
The above page gives some ideas on film sizes. If you go down to the Cross Reference section, it will tell you the size of the spools. Actually the measurement between the two flanges, so the spool will be wider by a tiny bit, but it should get you a pretty good idea.
Is the focal length of the lens legible? The normal length for square format 127 was 60 mm. The rectangular-image Foth Derby used a 50. I would expect something pretty close to that. The bigger the film, the longer the focal length. A 120 or 620 normal length would be around 100. |
Msiegel
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Username: Msiegel
Post Number: 313
Registered: 03-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 03:49 am: |
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It's a Fototecnica Filmor - have a look here:
http://www.collection-appareils.fr/x/html/appareil-12376-Fototecnica_Filmor.html
According to Sylvain's excellent site it's for 120 film. Measure the large opening of the inner part. If it is roughly 6x9 cm (2 1/3" x 3 1/2") then it's for 120 film which is still easily (more or less) available.
You will need an empty spool before you can load any film. |
Ivoid
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Username: Ivoid
Post Number: 2
Registered: 12-2012
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 09:06 am: |
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Wow! Thank you very much. It does measure about 6x9 cm. And I might actually have the spool laying around somewhere.
So it looks like the only things wrong with it are that the textured paint is worn off at a couple corners, it's missing the rubbery looking strap, and my biggest concern, there are a bunch of white speckles inside the lens. The lens assembly is riveted onto the box, so Its hard to get to.
It sorta looks like there is white paint speckled on the inside of the lens. Anybody have any idea of what it is?
Maybe I can blow compressed air into the lens with the shutter open. |
Msiegel
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Username: Msiegel
Post Number: 314
Registered: 03-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 10:14 am: |
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A bit of air won't do any harm. On the T position the shutter should stay open as long as you depress the release lever. You can also try a soft brush. It's possible that the lens can be screwed off from the front but I'm not sure from the pics.
Some wear on the corners is normal and carrying straps are more often missing than not with box cameras.
I hope you get it working.
Martin |
John_s
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Username: John_s
Post Number: 106
Registered: 07-2009
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 08:31 am: |
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I have cleaned the rear surface of box camera lenses by opening the shutter on the T or B position, then poking a cotton bud (Q Tip) through the opening at the rear, and clean he lens using a circular/ twisting motion. Use lens fluid if necessary, and it helps to tease out the end of the Q-tip somewhat. |
Br1078lum
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Username: Br1078lum
Post Number: 432
Registered: 11-2010
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 05:56 pm: |
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I love crinkle finish paint. Just might have to look for one of those someday.
PF |
