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Jim_metcalfe
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Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does anyone know if the taking and viewing lenses on this camera are identical? I want to know if I can swap the front elements, since the taking lens is scratched.
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Rick_oleson
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Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No, they are not.

However, the lens of the AAR is identical (as near as I can tell) to the one in the Ciro-Flex, so you might be able to salvage one out of a Ciro. I don't know if I'd swap just one element, I don't know if they were matched on assembly.
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Charlie
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Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rick Oleson's writeup (http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-77.html) says the viewing lens is f3.2. I think most TLRs have a larger viewing lens to give less depth of field in the viewing lens to ensure sharp focus of the taking lens without having to spend big bucks to match the two lenses.
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Jim_metcalfe
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Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 06:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks! Now that I think of it, duh! The only other TLR I've worked on is an old Chinese-market Seagull. Its lenses do seem to be identical triplets.
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Rick_oleson
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Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You can pretty much tell by looking at them, the top lens in the AAR is considerably larger than the bottom one. The coating is different too; the intro article said the viewing lens was coated, but I don't think it was in either the AAR or the Ciro, and the one in my 1950 Rollei doesn't look coated either. I have a feeling that coating was exotic enough at that time that they didn't waste it on non-imaging optics.
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Charlie
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Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 07:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Also, as a warning, you might not want to take the chance that the viewing optics were more flare proof than the taking optics.

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