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Arnoldharris
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Posted on Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

http://www3.pinky.ne.jp/~cefiro/camera/repair/AmbiSilette(II)/AmbiSilette2_2.html

The above link brings up a disassembly chart for the Agfa Ambi-Silette. Unfortunately, all the text is in an oriental language. I think, but cannot confirm, that the source is an overseas organization called Club Agfa.

Does anybody on this forum have access to a translation of this information? The photos are useful only to a certain level of disassembly. But the information in the text is vital for any serious CLA work.

Any help on this will be greatly appreciated.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
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Arnoldharris
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Posted on Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I can see from trying the link directly from this forum that it only works if you copy it to the Internet Explorer address box, then click on "go". Sorry about that.

(Old cameras were better designed than modern computer software systems.)

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
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Arnoldharris
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Posted on Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www3.pinky.ne.jp/~cef iro/camera/repair/AmbiSilette(II)/AmbiSilette2_1.html&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=5&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3 Dclub%2Bagfa%2Bambi-silette%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff

Within a minute of having sent out the SOS call above, I figured out how to use Google's online translation feature. So now I can take apart and service the Ambi-Silettes I've recently starting collecting, with a (more or less) English language instruction set guiding me along with all the sequential photos.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
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Pablomartinez
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Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Another better than average translator that you can use is this one http://www.freetranslation.com/
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Arnoldharris
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Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for the try, Peblo. But what I got from Google for gratis, verbatim in the next paragraph, was infinitely better than what "freetranslation.com" offered for $65 opening fee.

(Here is the "Japlish" translation that Google gives you automatically if you turn on that feature.)

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"The ring which the friend has been done to tighten 1 plate bis and the rewind axis is removed.
With the photograph the screw and the metallic plate of the accessory shoe have come off, but as for here there is no relationship in fixing of the warship section.

But, the grease was painted on also the part under the decoration board of the how accessory shoe!! . You do not know completely whether it applied in some reason.
Very, those where there are kind of traces which the amateur disassembled become matter of concern. (As for this expectation it is found afterwards that it hits,)"
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It took me a while to figure out that in Google's Japlish, "warship" refers to the removable camera body top, "alligator" to the main camera body, and so on.

With so many Agfa Ambi-Silettes floating around in the English speaking world, there surely must be something better than that for camera servicement to have used over the past 50 years.

Or did people mail these cameras back to the Agfa factory every time they needed a CLA or rangefinder adjustment?

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
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Pablomartinez
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Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 04:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is the (free) translation from Freetranslation.com.

More warships! and pretty poor...


I remove the ring where winds with 1 plate screw and be doing and be tightening a/the return axis a/the friend.
Although the screw and metal plate of a/the アクセサ leash are missing in a/the photograph here is not related to the fixation of warship department.

However, the grease was applied to the part under the decoration board of a/the アクセサ leash what! ! . 《主語なし》I do not understand at all by reason of what I applied it.
It is anxious about it to there be the such trace that an/the amateur disassembled probably. (It understands as the back that this expectation is)
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Arnoldharris
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Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I now have six Agfa Ambi-Silettes, with a seventh on which I intend to be the winning bidder on the eBay auction (by using an automated bidding system). Which will give me seven more or less identical Ambi-Silettes.

Things being what they apparently are, with this sole Japlish source of servicing information, I think I will take apart the only one of these cameras that has a jammed-up film advance and shutter release.

Then I will know exactly how to put it (and therefore all of them) back together again so that they not only will be cleaned, lubricated (or at least the star wheel and pallet in the Synchro-Compur shutters) and adjusted (if and where needed).

At which point, I will ditch the online Japlish text and write my own in English for the next such person in the English-speaking world who has to work on one of these.

Buddha apparently helps those who help themselves.

By the way, based on my experiences with Voigtlander Vitessa-Ts and Agfa Ambi-Silettes; if no service manuals or dis-assembly instructions are available from any known source, do yourselves a favor and select another make and model of these 50 years old cameras. Or you will just beat your heads against the well trying to decipher oriental hiroglyphics such as I've been trying to deal with here.

Thanks anyway, Pablo.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI

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