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Rick_oleson
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Username: Rick_oleson
Post Number: 718
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 08, 2008 - 06:56 pm: | 
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Browsing at Harbor Freight today, I encountered my old standby shutter curtain "repair" good ... "Liquid Electrical Tape" ... in a SPRAY CAN! I bought one for about $6, couldn't resist: I have two P6 cameras that I miss using, both have pinholed curtains and I'm too damn lazy to recurtain them. This may be the answer, at least for a while..... |
Msiegel
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Username: Msiegel
Post Number: 55
Registered: 03-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 12:40 am: |
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Thanks for posting that info.
A question: Don't you fear that it might get getting into places where it absolutely should not? Like little particles bouncing off the curtain when sprayed on?
I wonder if liquid electrical tape could be used to repair pinholes in bellows but the stuff is quite expensive here in Austria for what I've seen so far. |
Charlie
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Username: Charlie
Post Number: 183
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 07:11 am: |
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I use black silicone rubber for repairing bellows pin holes. Push a pin down through the pinhole, open the back and put a small blob of silicone rubber on the tip of the pin and pull the pin back out. Smear a little more where the pin came out and leave back and front open several bays to let the rubber cure thoroughly. |
Rick_oleson
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Username: Rick_oleson
Post Number: 720
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 03:31 pm: |
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I'm not too worried about it getting into things, although of course you need to have your camera pretty well wrapped up in masking tape before you shoot this stuff at the shutter. I'm going to try shooting it at the back side of the curtain through the negative opening, with everything but the curtain surface itself well masked off. If it doesn't work I have to replace the curtains, but that's what I have to do anyway if I don't try it, so there's nothing really to lose.
If I wind up with a camera full of black rubber, I'll let you all know....
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Dgillette4
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Username: Dgillette4
Post Number: 250
Registered: 04-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 04:27 pm: |
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I have used black liquid electrial tape from Home Depot. comes in bottle with brush. I wonder if tool dip would work? don |
Msiegel
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Username: Msiegel
Post Number: 59
Registered: 03-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 04:55 am: |
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Charlie,
thanks for the info - I think I've read your tip previously but can't remember where. So thanks again. Silicone rubber should be easier to get here (or at least cheaper) |
Rick_oleson
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Username: Rick_oleson
Post Number: 721
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 07:24 pm: |
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Tool dip is basically the same stuff. Silicone is not, it doesn't adhere as well, and gives off a fair amount of acetic acid as it cures. If you can get the vinyl plastisol material (liquid tape or tool handle dip) I would use that rather than silicone.
All of them, of course, are temporary stopgap measures until you can effect a curtain replacement. |
Msiegel
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Username: Msiegel
Post Number: 60
Registered: 03-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 06:58 am: |
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Rick,
thanks for the info. I was still talking bellows - sorry if I did not make that clear. Nevertheless tool handle dip might be a solution. Thanks again. |
Rick_oleson
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Username: Rick_oleson
Post Number: 722
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 03:31 pm: |
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To get good adhesion you want to coat on the fabric side, not on the smooth leather or rubber or whatever the outside surface is.... this means the inside of the bellows, which is trickier to do, and of course you have to keep the bellows extended for plenty of time afterwards to make sure it isn't tacky when you fold it up. But if you get it to soak into the fabric, it will have really good adhesion and light tightness. |
Msiegel
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Username: Msiegel
Post Number: 61
Registered: 03-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 05:53 am: |
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Thanks Rick - I will try not to forget this. As the camera which needs the bellows done is an Isolette it needs it's front lenses unstuck as well so leaving it open for a few days is not a problem. As I am not using it for the moment anyway the time factor is not relevant. |
August
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Username: August
Post Number: 26
Registered: 06-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 09:22 am: |
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Hmm, I have an Isolette I might try this on also. Too bad there's no Harbor Freight around me. Wonder where else I can get the spray stuff. |
Rlc
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Username: Rlc
Post Number: 58
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 10:31 am: |
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August; Copied from a Google Search for Harbor Freight locations:
ALBANY, NY 1770 CENTRAL AVE, STE 4 518-452-3875
AMHERST, NY 1459 NIAGARA FALLS BLVD 716-835-6435
CHEEKTOWAGA, NY 3901 UNION RD 716-565-1415
ROCHESTER, NY 3333 W. HENRIETTA RD 585-475-1190
ROCHESTER, NY 1040 EAST RIDGE ROAD 585-544-5154
SYRACUSE, NY 709 N. MAIN ST. 315-452-9121
YORKVILLE, NY 5127 COMMERCIAL DRIVE 315-736-3984
Once you order from them you will be on their mailing list for new catalogues.
Richard. |
Rick_oleson
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Username: Rick_oleson
Post Number: 723
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 02:35 pm: |
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They have a website too: http://harborfreight.com/
When their store opened in Lexington, it was their only store east of Nevada ... no idea why they chose us. |
August
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Username: August
Post Number: 27
Registered: 06-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 07:11 pm: |
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Thanks guys. I found it on the auction site as well. I can think of a lot of uses for this. |
