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Barnum
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Post Number: 170
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Posted on Thursday, June 03, 2010 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have one of these 4-lens 3D cameras. Working when I acquired it. I quite recently read that without usage, the cell can go dead & the camera not function. I did some digging, & found a site that said if a bright light is shone into the cell, it will wake up. Tried that-no go. Anyone have the same problem and fixed it? If so, how did you do it you genius you?
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Barnum
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Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Regarding my enquiry relating to my Nimslo 3D, I am still hoping some genius is out there, SOMEWHERE!
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Mareklew
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Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, this seems to be some rather unusual camera. From the electronic point of view: if it's dead, it's dead, you need to replace parts. Since it's proprietary design, you are mostly on your own regarding spares - so best bet would be to trace back the schematic using pencil and paper and then figure out how it worked...

Marek
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Rick_oleson
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Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have 2 of them, both unused - original batteries still in their little blister cards. maybe i should try one out, you can't get much more "without usage" than that....
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Tom_cheshire
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Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Read a big rant on photo.net forum some weeks ago about how selenium meters don't quit, only the contact points get oxidized and cleaning them will revive most any meter. He went on and on about how repair people let camera users think what they want to about meters quitting but it wasn't true, etc.

Can't find the exact forum page but his website is here:

http://elekm.net/zeiss-ikon/repair/meter-repair/
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Mareklew
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Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2010 - 02:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tom, them saying that selenium cells don't quit, just the contacts oxidize, sound like a car dealer selling a 'good car, just all the rubber hoses are shot' or saying, that 'this gear is mostly OK, it's just the teeth that are stripped'.

It's always some part of an element that dies first and is responsible for failure.
As selenium cell based meters need only tiny amount of current, it is often enough to moisturize, or even just press down ('massage') shot conductive paint to regain enough contact - for a time (not long anyway). In many cases it could be possible to revive a cell by putting new contact paint - but what to do if there's still coating on the cell and the conductive layer deteriorated UNDER the coating? With enough effort and money you can even fix a transistor within an IC, but it's not okay to blame repairmen who refuse to do it...

Marek
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Ron_g
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Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2010 - 02:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have found that the selenium cell is seldom at fault when diagnosing and repairing the meters that use them.Poor electrical connections ranks near the top in causes of poor performance.Ron G
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Barnum
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Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2010 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks guys, although I'm not sure how selenium meters got in here. I look forward to your findings Rick.
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Foto_gaga
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Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2010 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You are right. The Nimslo meter is a CDS. Well, just pop it open and replace the cell. Or resolder the wires (if that is what happened).

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