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Krumholtz
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Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I recently found a Voigtlander Brilliant (1936) at an antique store in Washington state, and have begun disassembling it for cleaning purposes. I removed the upper lens (which took A LOT of elbow grease), and gently cleaned the mount with warm water, soap, and a toothbrush. When I finished cleaning and drying it, I noticed the glass lens was now loose in the mount and had a small chip on the periphery, which subsequently grew larger. There's now a small gap in some hard black material that runs halfway along the perimeter of the mount, which I suspect is glue or ancient rubber. Does anyone have any recommendations for how to once again fix the lens in the mount? I'm considering super glue, mainly because I think it will work and the camera isn't valuable (the viewfinder lens is fixed on this model, no ability to focus). I'd be interested to learn the "proper" method, however. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
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Hanskerensky
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Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Alas i never handled the Brilliant but just want to give you a quick warning before you go any further. Please don't use super glue, the vapors coming from that can be a hazard for the lens and mirror surfaces.
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Krumholtz
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Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for the warning Hanskerensky, I had no idea! I can't go any further on the project until I get a spanner wrench (for the shutter, not the viewfinder lens), so I'll sit tight for now. Any ideas on a lens/mirror friendly adhesive? Really don't want to damage it any more than I already have! Thanks again!
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Paul_ron
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Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 07:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Epoxy.

But before you glue anything, find out why there is a gap?

Anyone with this camera may be able to help better describe it to you.

Maybe it's losened via a back retainer? Maybe a wire retainer clip fell out of it;'s slot up front or rotted out?

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Krumholtz
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Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks Paul_Ron, any particular epoxy you'd recommend? As best I can tell, the lens was held in place by a black resin applied to a metal lip that sits behind it. There's nothing mechanical keeping it in place, unless there was and it was removed before I got to it! I'd take a photo, but I don't have a lens capable of bringing it into sufficient focus. Thanks for your help!
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Paul_ron
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Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Any Epoxy will work. Apply it with a tooth pick n try to be as neat as you can n never try to wipe or you will make a real mess, let is set n pick it off later.

I once worked on a camera that had a metal wire retainer clip holding the lens in. Is it possable to make a metal wire ring for yours insead of gluing? How about using a string jammed in like caming? Glue is so permenant.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Any Epoxy will work. Apply it with a tooth pick n try to be as neat as you can n never try to wipe or you will make a real mess, let is set n pick it off later.

I once worked on a camera that had a metal wire retainer clip holding the lens in. Is it possable to make a metal wire ring for yours insead of gluing? How about using a string jammed in like caming? Glue is so permenant.
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Krumholtz
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Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'll give the string a try, but I may end up going with the epoxy if it doesn't work. Brilliants are cheap enough that I could always buy another one to replace the viewfinder lens, given that the current lens has a fair amount of scratches anyway. We'll see. I'll post again once I've "fixed" the problem!

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