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Fred_the_oyster
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Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 03:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have the problem described in the message title! The rangefinder spot is clearly visible but about half the viewfinder area is black. I presume it is caused by degradation of the cement used in the viewfinder/rangefinder prism; if so could anyone suggest a method by which it could be repaired?

Many thanks -
Jim
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Gez
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Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 04:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If the prism assembly is secured by Canada Balsam you can wash the dried material away with acetone and cement the pieces together with glass glue. The adhesive stays liquid until cured with UV light, bright sunlight does the trick, but it may be worth practising on spare bits of glass.
Don't bother getting the 'specialist' Norland stuff. Perfectly adequate stuff is available in DIY stores.
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Fred_the_oyster
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Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for the advice, I'll give that a go - I don't fancy my chances of a 'parts' camera! Cheers
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Glenn
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Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Just remember that modern UV cured adhesives are not reversible, so any error could have serious consequences. In many cases you do not need to bond the pieces of glass together with adhesive on the mating faces. I have 'repaired' a number of prisms by holding the parts together with small pieces of adhesive tape applied to the outer edges - all the repairs have stood the test of time, but can be easily redone should the need arise.
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Gez
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Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

UV cured methacrylate adhesives CAN be removed simply by soaking the parts for 2 or 3 days in dichloromethane solvent. This solvent is not an over the counter item but can be obtained fairly easily.
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Fred_the_oyster
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Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It appears that the two sections of the prism are secured - or possibly reinforced - with circular pieces of some thin metal, top and bottom.

I understand from what I've read about the Contax rangefinder - and I presume this to be similar - that there's a vacuum-deposited layer of gold on one of the prism surfaces?

I trust that my final question isn't facetious, but the answer would certainly interest me - I seem to remember from secondary school physics that UV doesn't readily pass through glass but is converted to infrared en route. I presume the glass is UV transparent to a sufficient extent to cure the adhesive?

Thanks to all for your help, greatly appreciated.
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Gez
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Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Your question isn't facetious and you are correct, glass does not transmit much UV radiation below about 340nm in wavelength, but enough at longer wavelengths gets through.

If you require vacuum deposition work, there is a firm in London called Scientific Mirrors that does 'silvering' of prisms, but they are pretty expensive.

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