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Aphototaker
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Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello,

I recently acquired an FTb (the 'n' model, the one with a white line in the stop down lever beside the lens mount) whose back door won't open.

If I pull up the film rewind crank, nothing happens. The back door is supposed to pop up, but it doesn't. It is as if the door is stuck firmly with the body. I have tried a little force, but do not want to damage the door unknowingly.

Suggestion on how to see what the problem is and how to open that door?

If it helps, I notice that the mirror sealing foam is on its way out. It has left some signs on the mirror edge and I should change the foam ASAP.

Thanks.
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Tom_cheshire
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Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Just put your fingernails under the edge of the door and pull. Sounds like the foam light seal "glued" it shut. Either that or it is misaligned and pushing down on the edge of the door will open it.
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Rick_oleson
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Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Don't use excessive force pulling up on the knob - if it doesn't release with a normal pull, more force won't make it release and might bend the latch (after which it won't open at all). Pull on the back while holding the knob up, per Tom's note, and it should come open. Then replace the light seals so it won't glue itself shut again. Jon Goodman is the place to go for that ( [email protected] )
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Aphototaker
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Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, pulling the door with fingernails is not working. I have tried some force for sure, both in pulling the rewind knob up and in pulling the door.

Is there any other method I can use to open the door, perhaps by opening the bottom or the top plate of the camera?

Thanks.
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Aphototaker
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Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It appears as if I am not able to pull the latch all the way up to unlock the door.

If I pull at the door's edge, I can hear that metallic click when I pull the door, even if I have pulled the rewind knob all the way up.

How likely is it that the latch is broken inside the camera?

Even more reason to find an alternate method to open the door I suppose.
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Gez
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Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 03:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The archive has some info on this common FTb problem.
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Aphototaker
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Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 07:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Gez, got it. Search the archive with different keywords till I found this post which mentioned pressing a gray black button underneath the bottom plate of the camera (URL of post: https://kyp.hauslendale.com/classics/forum/messages/6901/2015.html?1107639236, post be "amanda").

That gray button is actually a triangular kind of plate which is part of the spring lock. It is shown in the photo below.

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The part of the spring lock under the camera used to open the film door.
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Aphototaker
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Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 07:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have noticed that pulling the film rewind knob does not pull that spring mechanism that locks the back door.

Here is the film rewind knob from inside the film compartment. Does anyone see anything wrong with this?

Thanks.

Canon FTb film rewind knob from inside the film compartment.
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Rick_oleson
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Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You'll have to take the top cover off to find out what's gone wrong. Chances are that pulling too hard on the rewind knob has bent the linkage so that it no longer pulls up on the latch.
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Aphototaker
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Posted on Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rick, I thought as much.

I have never taken the top of an FTb off before. I see that I need to unscrew the top plates of the shutter speed knob and the frame wind crank. And I need to unscrew the film rewind knob the usual way (block the film spool from within the film compartment and unscrew the knob from the top).

But do I need to take some special care in terms of the film speed setting knob or the shutter speed knob?

Thanks.
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Aphototaker
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Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2010 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rick, I think I have recognized the problem, but I am not sure yet. I am going to post a new thread regarding this.

Thanks.

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