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T48
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Registered: 10-2006

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Posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi,
I'm new to the forum. I have a 159 in which the mirror hits against the inside end of the lens when the mirror flips up. It wedges there and the shutter won't fire. This only happens on several of my Zeiss lenses, not on all of them, and not on my Yashica or Tamron ones. I know this isn't normal because I have another 159 which clears these lenses. It looks as though the mirror on the problem one is farther forward in the body than in the other one. Can a mirror move? What is the fix? Is it a do it yourself job? Thanks.
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Glenn
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Registered: 07-2006

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Posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I am not familiar with the 159, so do not know if the following will be of any help. It is not unknown for the actual mirror to slip downwards on the metal base in some makes of camera. This can be due to adhesive failure or metal fixings/clips failing to hold. If this has happened, you should be able to compare the position of the lower edge of mirror in each of your 159 bodies.

You do not indicate if you have had the camera for a long time and this problem has just occurred, or if it is a new acquisition. If it is the latter, I suppose it is just possible that someone has had the camera apart and not aligned the mirror assembly correctly. However on the two cameras I have examined where this happened, the mirrors did not release.

It should be a simple task to compare the relative positions of the mirror glass, examine them in the up position ie shutter on 'B'. If the mirror has slipped, repositioning will depend on how it was originally fixed. Take care not to damage the front face.
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Mikel
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Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I would say Glenn is on the right track. Although I do not remember a 159 with this problem, I do remember some Yashica FX-D's and FX-70's with this problem (also Kyocera products from about the same time period). It was apparently caused by high temperatures (probably in an automobile) causing the adhesive holding the mirror on the backing to soften and the glass to slide down. A CAREFUL application of heat to the back of the mirror might make it possible to slide the mirror back into place. It worked for me. "Your mileage may vary". Be careful.
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Donnie_strickland
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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2006 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have had this problem on a few Ricoh bodies. The mirror(s) had "slid downhill" and I had to remove and reglue them. Remember to check your focus afterwards.

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